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[167434] Testigos: Jose Manuel Trujillo, Mariano Baca, Juan Antonio Gonzáles y Antonio Jose Jaramillo.
[167435]
[S412]
Diligencias - NM Roots Ltd., (Diligencias Matrimoniales)
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[10633] Name on children's Baptism records.
[159999] Testigos: Vicente Casillas y Juan de Dios dela Peña.
[10635]
[S107]
Santa Fe Marriages 1728-1955
[10634]
[S698]
Santa Fe Baptisms 1747-1851
[160000]
[S703]
Santa Fe Marriages 1728-1857
[167832]
[S184]
Census 1790,1823,1845, Spanish & Mexican Colonial
[180824] Listed with two daughters, ages 2 and 1
[180825]
[S184]
Census 1790,1823,1845, Spanish & Mexican Colonial
[52314]
Cristobal Saenz de Gaspar y Peralta and María Gertrudis Gutiérrez de Caburrado are most likely the parents of Juana Julia. They were, also, from Chihuahua. This is an educated guess on my part.
From Beyond ONMF on the Internet [ http://pages.prodigy.net/bluemountain1/beyondorigins.htm ]:
1. A Guide to the 1788 and 1790 Censuses of El Paso del Norte Arranged Alphabetically and Listed to Indicate Possible Family Groupings. Researched and prepared by John B. Colligan and Terry L. Corbett.
El Paso del Norte Censuses of 1788 and 1790
Saenz, D. Xptobal: Español, native of Chihuahua, age 50, Notary Public, married to Da Manuela Provencio, Española, native of Paso, age 27. His family: 2 sons, 3 and 1; 1 daughter 6, 1 female servant 10. (1788-19)
DM at NSG on 28 Apr. 1779 for C. H. Záenz de Gaspar y Peralta, español from Chihuahua and San Elisario, legitimate son of Pedro Joseph Záenz de Gaspar y Peralta and Cándida Sebastina Phuenne de Padilla, widow of Manuel, and doña Manuela Probensio, española native of Paso, legitimate daughter of Lorenzo de Jesús Probensio and Bictoria Luna. [??]
Permission to marry to Cristóbal Eracleo Saenz, widower and citizen of the presidio at San Elceario, and María Manuela Vicenta Provencio, citizen of El Paso, given by Br. José Félix Vergara, chaplain of the presidio of San Elceario on 16 May 1779. (Rick Hendricks, El Valle Bajo, II, p. 137, cites CAT 2: 1 ff; also CAT 3: 660; 667-68)
At NSG on 17 May 1779, don Xptóbal Eraclio Saenz de Gaspar y Peralta, español native of the villa of Chihuahua, widower from his first marriage to doña María Gertrudis Gutiérrez de Caburrado, legitimate son of don Pedro Joseph Saenz de Gaspar y Peralta and doña Cándida Sebastiana Gutiérrez de Gandarilla, and doña María Manuela Vicenta Provencio, 18, Paso native and citizen, daughter of don Lorenzo de Jesús Provencio, notary public of this jurisdiction, and doña María Victoria Jurado de Gracia. (CAT 3: 667-68)
Christobal Eraclio Saenz Gaspar de Peralta and Manuela Provencio baptized son Jose Vizente Isidoro at NSG on 9 Apr 1780, b 4th. (JCA, r 5)
DM at NSG on 9 Apr. 1798 for don José María de la Sierra, 26, native and citizen of Paso, español, adopted son of doña Francisca de la Sierra and María de los Ángeles Záens, native and citizen of Paso, legitimate daughter of don Christóval Eraclio Záens and doña Manuela Visenta Provencio. Proceedings at San Lorenso and Paso.
[1790 census]
Saenz, D. Cristoval: Notary Public, native of Chihuahua, 53 years old, married to Da Manuela Provencio, Española, 31, has three sons, 7, 4 and 1 year old; a daughter, 9; and an orphan girl, 14.(1790-18)
2. El Paso Census of 1784 and 1787 [ from BONMF Internet site, transcribed by John B. Colligan ]
Sáenz, don Cristóbal: ‘84-español, married, chanter and barbero; 2 sons over 14, 1 son and 1 daughter under 14. (8; El P)
3. The marriage records can be verified from LDS Film # 0162719 of Nuestra Sra. de Guadalupe Church, Juarez, Mexico.
[165718]
1. First wife of Telmo Guerra:
New Mexico Prenuptial Investigations From the Archivos Históricos
del Arzobispado de Durango, 1760-1799 edited by Rick Hendricks
and compiled by J.B. Colligan.
23 Jan - 1 April 1776, Ysleta
Telmo Guerra, 25, son of Vicente Guerra, deceased, and Barbara
Duran of Los Ranchos & jurisdiction of Socorro, and Maria Lopez,
19, natural daug. of Estefana Lopez, citizen of Socorro.
Felipa Lopez sister Juan Lopez
mom of father of
Jose Duran 1st cousin Estefana Lopez
father of mother of
Barbara Duran 2nd cou. Ma. Dolores Lopez
mom of
Telmo Guerra 2nd & 3rd cou. of Ma. Dolores Lopez
2. Ancelmo married María Juana Julia Saenz about 1788.
When he died she married Patricio Ydaldo on 25 Apr 1810. [ LDS film # 1156615 or film # 162719 ]. The record states she is the widow of Telmo Guerra.
[52315]
[S466]
Montoya-Bocan GEDCOM file
[24563] Name on Marriage record and "Saiz" on children's Baptism records.
[161406]
Testigos: Lucas Moya y Antonio Alberto.
Note: Both servants of the Governor.
[24564]
[S703]
Santa Fe Marriages 1728-1857
[24565]
[S698]
Santa Fe Baptisms 1747-1851
[161407]
[S703]
Santa Fe Marriages 1728-1857
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[167383] Testigos: Manuyel Antonio Armenta y Bartholome Marques.
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[S703]
Santa Fe Marriages 1728-1857